tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post3445045976556229519..comments2023-11-12T09:52:42.825-05:00Comments on Medieval Woman: Blogging with Historical Novelist Susan Higginbotham: Edward WoodvilleSusan Higginbothamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-55127876305939990232012-08-24T23:21:25.858-04:002012-08-24T23:21:25.858-04:00I believed he was installed as a Knight of the Gar...I believed he was installed as a Knight of the Garter on April 27, 1488 (not July 28). <br /><br />Some foreign accounts do refer to him as "Lord Scales," I believe, but he certainly didn't hold that title or an earldom--after Anthony Woodville's execution, Richard Woodville became Earl Rivers. He was "Sir Edward," though. Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-77569394682842226052012-08-22T13:13:21.243-04:002012-08-22T13:13:21.243-04:00i have been looking into the battle of st aubin en...i have been looking into the battle of st aubin en colomerie which is where edward woodville and the men of the isle of wight died and this took place on 28th july 1488 so for him to have been made knight of the garter the day before does seem a little odd but in items i have read he is variously refered to as sir edward, earl rivers lord of scales and captain of wight and as far as i can see the title which he actual held was a knighthood. can you tell me if i am misunderstanding what i am reading or did the writers of these various articles misunderstand who they where writing about.aninterestedpartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08871622048841619291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-89246810082518623482009-11-11T23:19:49.726-05:002009-11-11T23:19:49.726-05:00susandhigginbotham.blogspot.com is very informativ...susandhigginbotham.blogspot.com is very informative. The article is very professionally written. I enjoy reading susandhigginbotham.blogspot.com every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-13743597323209936282008-04-30T09:09:00.000-04:002008-04-30T09:09:00.000-04:00Gabriele, we love your tongue in cheek!Carla, as f...Gabriele, we love your tongue in cheek!<BR/><BR/>Carla, as far as I know, it was quite unusual. It's surprising to me that neither Edward or Richard Woodville nor Richard Grey, Elizabeth's second son from her first marriage, married--you would think they would have had a fair amount of young ladies from which to choose.Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-34659812786681767682008-04-30T09:01:00.000-04:002008-04-30T09:01:00.000-04:00Lionel Woodville, being a leading churchman, proba...Lionel Woodville, being a leading churchman, probably devoted himself to his church career. Antony married twice, what the other brother, Richard, did is not really documented very well.<BR/>Edward I feel had a good time being in Edward IV's court and probably found no reason to make a marriage, although I doubt that went down well with the ambitious Jacquetta, who seemed to be keen on arranging dynastic marriages for her children. There also seemed to be a good deal of the adventurer in Edward, which would not have been allowed to have full rein if he had been restricted by a marriage.<BR/>Talking of adventuring ... Washington Irvine's book "The Conquest of Granada" has Edward called The Earl of Rivers, when he was supposedly using his brother's title of Lord Scales. It gets very confusing ...Antonia Woodvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594229396805493611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-84938481794799026802008-04-30T05:37:00.000-04:002008-04-30T05:37:00.000-04:00Was it unusual for two brothers from an important ...Was it unusual for two brothers from an important family never to marry?Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-18644116754453485042008-04-29T14:41:00.000-04:002008-04-29T14:41:00.000-04:00Debretts Peerage is THE ultimate authority on who ...Debretts Peerage is THE ultimate authority on who was knighted when. Their records are beyond reproach. have a good friend there who gives me the information I seek and I asked about Edward Woodville's promotion to Knight of the Garter for the book. <BR/>The most noted historians around have managed glaring errors so far, try Philip Haigh's Wars of the Roses for errors, I even started a letter to him, there were so many, but gave up on the basis he wouldn't care to hear about them anyway ... <BR/>Logically, as the expedition set off from the Island in May 1488, Edward would have been here, organising, preparing, making sure the carracks were at St Helens ready for the off, supervising gathering supplies, stores, etc and getting his armour and weaponry ready for a battle. To me, the 1487 date makes much more sense. Unfortunately he has no Garter Plate, unlike his brother, but that is a small thing. What is more important is he has no grave stone or marker here, nor do the men who perished with him, so my book is going to stand as their memorial and a memorial to all the men who left the island to fight in a war never to return.<BR/><BR/>Gabriele, point taken, but to the uninitiated it looks very much like Shakespearean slander afoot ... and I detest the man's writing and his slander!Antonia Woodvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594229396805493611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-59242381620864006402008-04-29T14:33:00.000-04:002008-04-29T14:33:00.000-04:00Memorials of the Order of the Garter by George Bel...<I>Memorials of the Order of the Garter</I> by George Beltz, Lancaster Herald, has him being installed as a Knight of the Garter on April 27, 1488, along with George Talbot, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury. Beltz reports that he took Francis Lovell's place. So I'm going with that date for the time being, but I'll certainly be digging a bit more.Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-41020940175854379572008-04-29T14:08:00.000-04:002008-04-29T14:08:00.000-04:00Antonia, my comment was tongue in cheek. Susan kno...Antonia, my comment was tongue in cheek. Susan knows I love making those. :)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-48796451121968218402008-04-29T12:07:00.000-04:002008-04-29T12:07:00.000-04:00Edward Woodville was made Knight of the Garter in ...Edward Woodville was made Knight of the Garter in 1487, not 1488. He sailed for Brittany in May 1488, having already been knighted. (Source, Debretts Peerage, best place to go before making a statement about a knighthood. The amount of errors I have uncovered relating to the Woodvilles is beyond belief!) The full story of the knight's life, including his last battle, are to be told in Captain Of The Wight, by me, which goes to print next month and which will have a book launch in Carisbrooke Castle, the centre and heart of the book, in July of this year.<BR/><BR/>re: comment above, ignore the Shakespearean nonsense, Gabriele, Richard III was not short of horses, but short of loyal men.Antonia Woodvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594229396805493611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21031350.post-29992807429949927442008-04-29T07:55:00.000-04:002008-04-29T07:55:00.000-04:00Hehe, Richard made a mistake to alienate Edward Wo...Hehe, Richard made a mistake to alienate Edward Woodville. One of his 12 horses might have come handy at the battle of Bosworth. :)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.com